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	<title>Comments on: What Is a Service?</title>
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	<description>Repeat after me: Data is code, code is data.</description>
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		<title>By: What is a service? &#124; Ong Jiin Joo</title>
		<link>http://fragmental.tw/2009/02/24/what-is-a-service/#comment-1848</link>
		<dc:creator>What is a service? &#124; Ong Jiin Joo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Other References: http://fragmental.tw/2009/02/24/what-is-a-service [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Other References: <a href="http://fragmental.tw/2009/02/24/what-is-a-service" rel="nofollow">http://fragmental.tw/2009/02/24/what-is-a-service</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ong Jiin Joo</title>
		<link>http://fragmental.tw/2009/02/24/what-is-a-service/#comment-1847</link>
		<dc:creator>Ong Jiin Joo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Other References: http://fragmental.tw/2009/02/24/what-is-a-service [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Other References: <a href="http://fragmental.tw/2009/02/24/what-is-a-service" rel="nofollow">http://fragmental.tw/2009/02/24/what-is-a-service</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: SOA Corporativa &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Promover serviços legados ou organizar a casa?</title>
		<link>http://fragmental.tw/2009/02/24/what-is-a-service/#comment-1767</link>
		<dc:creator>SOA Corporativa &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Promover serviços legados ou organizar a casa?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 18:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] deve simplificar a TI para obter agilidade, usando abstrações obtidas com a análise do negócio, o serviço. SOA não é necessariamente integração e reuso, mas lida diretamente com as limitações [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] deve simplificar a TI para obter agilidade, usando abstrações obtidas com a análise do negócio, o serviço. SOA não é necessariamente integração e reuso, mas lida diretamente com as limitações [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Rubem Azenha</title>
		<link>http://fragmental.tw/2009/02/24/what-is-a-service/#comment-1641</link>
		<dc:creator>Rubem Azenha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The diagrams are made in MS PaintBrush :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The diagrams are made in MS PaintBrush <img src='http://fragmental.tw/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Colin Jack</title>
		<link>http://fragmental.tw/2009/02/24/what-is-a-service/#comment-1636</link>
		<dc:creator>Colin Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand the idea of linking SOA and DDD in this exact way, but I'm not sure its the best approach.

In fact I think one reason that SOA is Domain-Driven Architecture is an appealing idea is that nothing written in the SOA space is of the quality of DDD, the ideas might be there but they aren't as clearly expressed as Evans managed. 

I think the ideas around SOA are out there though and personaly I'd far rather talk about good business-focussed SOA (Steve Jones style perhaps) and then dig into the domain models. In doing so we might take some ideas from DDD directly (UL) and we might use other ideas to shape/describe our services (context maps/bounded contexts/etc) but I'm still hoping someone steps up and writes a similiar book about SOA some time soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand the idea of linking SOA and DDD in this exact way, but I&#8217;m not sure its the best approach.</p>
<p>In fact I think one reason that SOA is Domain-Driven Architecture is an appealing idea is that nothing written in the SOA space is of the quality of DDD, the ideas might be there but they aren&#8217;t as clearly expressed as Evans managed. </p>
<p>I think the ideas around SOA are out there though and personaly I&#8217;d far rather talk about good business-focussed SOA (Steve Jones style perhaps) and then dig into the domain models. In doing so we might take some ideas from DDD directly (UL) and we might use other ideas to shape/describe our services (context maps/bounded contexts/etc) but I&#8217;m still hoping someone steps up and writes a similiar book about SOA some time soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Tetsuo</title>
		<link>http://fragmental.tw/2009/02/24/what-is-a-service/#comment-1633</link>
		<dc:creator>Tetsuo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 16:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I've read 'SOA is Domain-Driven Architecture', I thought 'bullshit!'. But then, about 1 second later, I realized it actually made sense, so I continued reading.

'SOA == WebServices &#124;&#124; ESBs' is just plaing wrong, and 'IT aligned to business' isn't useful at all, because it can mean anything. Your colleague Neal Ford tries to write about the matter, but just gets lost in vague statements and irrelevant details.

I don't think one can say what you describe is THE correct definition for SOA, just because when everyone has her own truth, there's no real one truth. But this post contains one of the most USEFUL definitions of SOA I've seen so far. Thank you.

... and I agree with Tim, nice diagrams! rsrsrs XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I&#8217;ve read &#8216;SOA is Domain-Driven Architecture&#8217;, I thought &#8216;bullshit!&#8217;. But then, about 1 second later, I realized it actually made sense, so I continued reading.</p>
<p>&#8216;SOA == WebServices || ESBs&#8217; is just plaing wrong, and &#8216;IT aligned to business&#8217; isn&#8217;t useful at all, because it can mean anything. Your colleague Neal Ford tries to write about the matter, but just gets lost in vague statements and irrelevant details.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think one can say what you describe is THE correct definition for SOA, just because when everyone has her own truth, there&#8217;s no real one truth. But this post contains one of the most USEFUL definitions of SOA I&#8217;ve seen so far. Thank you.</p>
<p>&#8230; and I agree with Tim, nice diagrams! rsrsrs XD</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Carver&#8217;s Punch Barrel / What Is a Service?</title>
		<link>http://fragmental.tw/2009/02/24/what-is-a-service/#comment-1629</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Carver&#8217;s Punch Barrel / What Is a Service?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 11:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Phillip Calçado &#8220;Shoes&#8221; has a good example of some of these problems at What Is a Service? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Phillip Calçado &#8220;Shoes&#8221; has a good example of some of these problems at What Is a Service? [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://fragmental.tw/2009/02/24/what-is-a-service/#comment-1624</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did you use to make those diagrams?

Visio? OmniGraph?</description>
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<p>Visio? OmniGraph?</p>
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